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Don't bank on that bonus

I can't help but admire Barack Obama. Ok, he's having a few problems settling into Government (and I know how he feels on that one) but his decision to cap the bailed out banks executive pay at £350,000 is morally the right thing to do.

 

He's absolutely right to say it's shameful that these bankers were rewarding themselves for the near catastrophic collapse of the global financial system and the resulting credit crunch that's hit so many families and hard working small businesses.

 

I've seen it in Hull. Atlas Holiday Homes has a long and proud history - a successful firm that for 30 years had a credit facility with Barclays.

 

That was until they decided to take it away last December even though the company had a full order book way into March.

 

At the time Barclays Chief Executive John Varley told the BBC that firms and households will have to wait another two years before bank lending goes back to normal.

 

It's a good job we didn't wait two years to bail out the banking sector to the tune of £37bn, isn't it?

 

That's why we set up our Go Fourth Facebook campaign ‘No Ifs No Buts - Pass on the Cut' to pressure the banks to pass the interest rate cuts in full for customers and businesses.

 

Many of these banks were bailed out by this Government but Barclays preferred to sort out their own refinancing package with Abu Dhabi and Qatari investors.

 

Mr Varley said at the time: "Our ability to do what our shareholders would expect of us would be compromised if Barclays was nationalised."

 

Translation = we want to carry on giving out healthy dividends and wallet-busting bonuses. Last year, they posted profits of £7 billion.

 

But on 30 August 2007, Barclays was forced to borrow £1.6bn from the Bank of England sterling standby facility, which is made available as a last-resort when banks are unable to settle their debts to other banks at the end of daily trading.

 

So we bailed out Barclays by giving them a credit facility! And what did Mr Varley get last year? A bonus of £1.45 million whilst Barclay's President got ten times as much - £14.8m

 

Obviously we can't touch Barclays as we don't have stock in them - yet - but we can have a say on the others - especially RBS.

 

So according to the Times, they're "considering" paying out hundreds of millions of pounds in bonuses to their bankers and traders even though we had to bail them out to save savers, homeowners and businesses.

 

RBS has already decided to scrap bonus payouts at board level as part of its bail-out conditions, but it can still make bonus payments to those below board level. In 2007 they pad out £1.83 billion, mosty in bonuses.

 

An RBS spokeswoman said that on the question of bonuses, "no decision has been taken yet."

 

Good - so let's help them make that decision.

 

We pumped £20b into saving RBS and now own 68% of the shares. If they pass those bonuses on in full, it will be a slap in the face to the businesses forced to close because they're couldn't get the lines of credit extended, to the families struggling to remortgage.

 

RBS will decide in the next few weeks what level of bonus - if at all - they will pay out to the bankers. So I want your help.


I intend to stay very vocal on this but I want to hear what you think we should do to reign RBS in - and it doesn't matter if you're not a Labour supporter, I still want you to hear from you.

 

We're all shareholders in this bank so send me thoughts about how we can protest. I also want to hear from small businesses and people who've been refused credit at RBS. Either send me a Facebook message at our No, No Buts group or leave a comment here.

 

There's no excuse - no ifs no buts - give up the bonus.

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catherine macdonald
Hi,

To add to Mr Holmes comment below, I closed my account with them a few months ago. Got fed up with too many fat cats at the top. My comments below don't reflect on the counter staff, but the fat cats above who think up these things...
@ 5:29 pm, Sun 8th Feb 2009 | reply |
catherine macdonald
You get my vote for not giving ANY RBS staff member a bonus. When I was made redundant, I deposted my pay off with them. Guess what, they kept sending me mail asking me to take out loans. credit cards and insurance. If they are being paid a bonus on "sales" of such products, it's themselves to blame for going feet up as they have targeted those of us who cannot afford Credit Cards and such like.

Their staff, I believe, are targeted on such sales.

I don't want to join Facebook but agree with your protest. There will be many, many people who don't have access to a PC who agree with you.
@ 3:48 pm, Sun 8th Feb 2009 | reply |
Isacc Hunt
In my opinion he bankers who have put the economy on the brink of collapse should loose their jobs not just their bonus.
Likewise the NL politicians, Brown et al.who have for 11 years allowed this massive borrowing and unfunded credit to continue. They will be 'sacked' at the next general election but by then will have feathered their nests and massive pensions with the tax payers money.
@ 11:16 am, Sun 8th Feb 2009 | reply |
Joe Black
If it wasn't for our tax quid they'd be dead in the water. Time to exercise our representation on their boards.

When people say we've got to pay bonuses or they'll leave it makes me laugh. Where will they run to? The global economic system is in an apocalyptic state of flux after all. Barack's salary cap is the best idea from a polititian since the NHS.
@ 11:36 am, Sat 7th Feb 2009 | reply |
Mike Smith
if we're all shareholders, surely we can just veto any payment scheme that we don't approve of? Can't we?!?
@ 5:24 pm, Fri 6th Feb 2009 | reply |
darren jones
Im afraid mr prescott is garnering support in the cheapest way possible. Does he once mention the amount of tax money that has been pumped into the british economy over the last 10 years by RBS? 170000 staff on say an average of £20k per year equates to around £680m per year tax from the employees alone. Then there is corporation tax on the years of billion pound profits and then the tax from annual bonuses.the government has done very well out of RBS but lets sweep that all under the carpet hey! Then we forget that every member of staff is a tax payer and thus "owns" the bank and then again that many of these 170,000 are actually share holders and have been for many years, but that doesnt matter.
Then lets forget that probably 100,000 of them staff are the core staff that earn around £15k a year and have done their job to the book and rely on yearly targeted bonus to survive. What counts is a labour MP using cheap tactics to try and win an election whilst picking up a six figure "tax payer" salary and living in a lap of luxury. All too easy to ruin the lives of tens of thousands of staff who have contributed profitably to the bank and exceeded what is required of them isnt it Mr Prescott?
@ 9:27 pm, Wed 11th Feb 2009 | reply |
Robin Holmes
Yes hopefully we can. Perhaps those of us who hold an account with RBS should consider whether we wish to review this position and close the account.
None of the banks should have received any public money, the market should have been allowed to take it's course - the banks should have gone to the wall.
@ 5:36 pm, Fri 6th Feb 2009 | reply |
Mike Smith
actually, regulation should have prevented the retail banks from being exposed in the way that they are, so that the investment banks could have been allowed to go to the wall.
@ 5:40 pm, Fri 6th Feb 2009 | reply |
Pablo Luis Gonzalez
I hope you talk less rubbish as you did as a minister.
@ 2:04 pm, Fri 6th Feb 2009 | reply |
Geoffrey Brooking
Poor Gordon.

The creep may have been first to ring and congratulate Obama on his inauguration recently but he wasn't first to meet the new president was he.

That mantle went to a certain Anthony Blair!

The same person, who, it was revealed yesterday, wanted Charles Clarke to be promoted to Foreign Secretary so he could have challenged Gordon in a certain leadership contest all those months ago.

That was of course BEFORE he resigned as Home Secretary.

Poor boy!
@ 9:32 am, Sat 7th Feb 2009 | reply |